T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. I have played golf for 22 years. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. Going the Distance? I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. Howarth Golf Performance Studio | Facebook Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. God how I loved playing golf. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! Before when I opened the club face I presented too much leading edge, but due to the high bounce and shape with the M grind this doesnt happen. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. 5 0 obj Your email address will not be published. No question - 100%. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. This is the site where we share everything we've learned. This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. You can watch my full review via the Golfalot YouTube channel here: If you like what you see, please make sure you SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel to see all Golfalot video reviews and features first. [/quote] My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. [/quote] Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. TrackMan Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Copyright 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. me too! Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. any 7 iron data ? Not at all. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Dont Waste Your Money, Should Your Wedges Match Your Irons? [/quote] I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. What Determines Driver Distance? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. [/quote] Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] TSi2 18, VTS Silver 8xMizuno MP Fli Hi 21, Recoil 110MP-20 MMC 5-P,DG X100SM850F, 54S, 58MPXGCloser Gen 2Tour BX. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. Paste as plain text instead, The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. TrackMan - Did you see Justin Thomas' TrackMan numbers? . I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Lets consider the (average) approach shot distance that the AMA will have on an average par 4. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high Open navigation menu. The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. I am guarded from the bladed strike when hitting the lob shot which then builds a trust and compliment to my short game. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. The calculated distances for the approach shot are based on actual driver data and optimized driver data for the AMA is also listed. I think those numbers are a little high. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Distance to Apex 195.9 But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I prefer 120-160 yards, so I try my best to play to that yardage on par 4's. It's good for some laughs. That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. TEST INFO TOTAL SCORE any 7 iron data ? I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. How can that be true. It's good for some laughs. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. I guess that's laughable though, right? I'll pass. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. Torrey Pines South, huh? timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] You could hear the thump and it was relentless in its consistency. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 Learn how your comment data is processed. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. And this is where taking the TrackMan Combine and going through a Find Your Distance session is so valuable. Does Trackman update this data each year? Master the Swing Plane and Handle Path for Increased Distance and Accuracy! Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. #TeamTrackMan Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. Consistency is Key, Are Driving Range Distances Accurate? Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 Ha, okay. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. I don't measure my driver distance either. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Ball Speed 176.38 Do you suppose my distance is bs? Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. How Far Should Beginners Hit A Golf Ball? Length is nothing. I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. I appreciate that. TrackMan Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7 X, 3-wood: Callaway Rogue ST Max (15 degrees) Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. How Far Should I Hit My Hybrids? That's my opinion at least. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. 200 to 225 yards. Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. Im a baseball coach who plays golf when I can. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. When it comes to how far the pros hit a 3 wood and the other longer clubs in the bag including their hybrids the distance analysis gets a bit more complicated because clearly the pros are starting to use these clubs for a wider variety type of shots than they do for their driver. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White [/quote] There is a very obvious relationship between these two variables. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Carry Efficiency 2.51 Absolutely awesome numbers though. This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. 6 0 obj Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? [/quote] I agree with you 100%. Carry Efficiency 2.51 I don't measure my driver distance. All rights reserved. Have a look at his numbers. It's not the length that makes a pro. It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, 5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. That's what I think. He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Do All Golf Balls Go the Same Distance? Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young SM5 53, 59 Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. Trackman Data on PGA Tour Averages Hit It Longer As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). Dont think they ever release that stuff. Lol, so true.. 2 were over 320. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. Very interesting but sort of depressing article. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) See how The Honda Classic Justin - Michael Cooney Golf My average club separation is about 15 yards. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Feel free toshare your thoughts and experience in the comment section below. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. Different pros however clearly hit their irons different distances but in the table below we have listed the stock yardages of some of the top pros, including Rory McIlroy, Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas and Bryson DeChambeau, to let you see how they compare against the average. Mack Made Custom Blade. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. [quote name='J.W.' The average for those golfers was 117 mph. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. Get off the elite courses and look at the ones where people are paying maybe $45 to play, not $200+. [/quote] You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. How to Hit Massive Drives! Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Close suggestions Search Search Search Search Trackman Figures from Some Tour Players - The Sand Trap .com What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. <> do Trackman numbers mean? Understanding golf launch monitor results I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The data results given in this article are completely skewed. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. Impressive Combine Score by a 12 year old boy, How to maximize player performance with small changes. Simmer down, all. Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. Your shot versatility is obtained by a comprehensive 23 head options in different lofts, grinds and bounces. I think you wish you hit it further. 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. 100% of all funds raised with be used to make a constructive and quality impact for a deserving child, family or charity. RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs.
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